Wednesday, June 29, 2016

Ten Days In, Down Half a Pound, What's the Point?


So annoying. I did what was suggested in one comment and tracked calories a couple days to be sure I am where I think I should be, and I got close to 1000 calories both days and under 80g carbs which is where I was aiming. However I am NOT losing weight. Half a pound is meaningless. Why am I not seeing any results when I am eating like half of what I was eating before? It bothers me a lot, but then I remember all the times on this blog where I have seen similar non-results. Like the times on Medifast eating 800 calories a day and not losing, or only half a pound a week. Or the times I counted calories, biked, walked, etc on a regular basis and still saw no weight loss. I know ten days is just a start but still, usually we will see at least a couple of pounds gone when going from a high carb diet to a low carb one. It's frustrating but not surprising and that is partly why I was wondering if there is some kind of supplement I could take to help things along. Guess not.

Well I think my eating is in order although I can certainly cut back even more if need be. I am doing better with the cravings now and feel like I can do this long term. I guess I will start pushing the exercise again too. I walk most days (leisure walks with the dog or with kids) and swim once in awhile, but the only way for me to get in heart-raising, non-lifestyle exercise right now is for me to bike. So I am biking every day starting now, possibly with one day off for rest per week. I can do about 20 minutes straight before I start to ache a bit, but I know from past experience that I can increase a minute a day until I get to about 35 minutes. Beyond that and I start getting those stupid soft tissue injuries in my feet and legs and also start to aggravate the arthritis in my knees. I have, MANY times, hurt myself on that bike by pushing it too long. I get that lots of people can go longer, and do more. I don't know why my body acts the way it does with the stupid injuries but trust me, if I could, I would ride that bike 2 hours a day right now. I am that motivated to burn off this fat. I just can't, so I will do that I can without ending up "off the bike due to pain" like I have in the past.

So while I am super frustrated and throwing my hands up at the scale and thinking "what's the freaking point if I am not losing weight?", there is no alternative to continuing. I cannot just let myself get fatter and fatter until it is worse than when I started this blog. The weight has to come off, regardless of how "hard" it is and how long it takes. If I have to cut cream out of my coffee, fine. If I have to skip breakfast every day, I can do that. I am not worried that I will be malnourished as long as I get sufficient protein, vegetables, and vitamins.

Thanks for your support and I pray I will be able to post a 198 pound picture around the first of the year. It's not looking too promising for that YET but maybe I can find my groove... eat less, burn off more, and start to see the pounds melt off.


53 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hello - I do not think your issue is eating less - I think you need to eat more. Less than 1000 calories is way too low. Maybe go onto My Fitness Pal where they will calculate exactly how many calories you need to eat to lose. And you need to eat to lose! Many others would probably suggest increasing your protein -- and I would agree. Good luck! -Beth

Lori said...

Oh my, Lyn. I have been in that place too many times to count. I wish I knew exactly what the solution is. I'd share it in a heartbeat.

I haven't noticed anything about water. I understand it helps to flush out waste of all types. I hope this isn't too personal, but what is going on in the bathroom? Is everything moving through you well? If not, increasing water and green veggies will help.

Drinking water is good for other issues as well, like keeping your skin hydrated. It is irritating at first to have to run to the bathroom every 20 minutes but in time your body adapts.

Good luck. I hope you find the solution soon.
Lori

Kristi said...

Have you ever tried Ginkgo biloba? I buy it at Costco for about $13 for several hundred and take one a day, in the morning before I eat -- and keep my stomach empty for about 1.5 hours, then eat. It seems to make me less hungry and more in control with very little side effects. It may be a placebo effect, but it has worked for me, so I'm sticking with it, placebo or not.

MB said...

Hi Lyn, My 2 cents, for what it's worth, is that your body may feel like it is in starvation mode with such a low calorie intake and it is holding on to every bit of fat. Maybe try increasing calories with veggies and see if something starts moving. The struggle is real and we just have to keep trying to find our sweet spot. Don't give up. Keep fighting for your health but at the same time take care of your mental health by taking good care, no matter what that scale b!tch says. :)

Anonymous said...

You can't track for a couple of days and think you have it down pat. Especially fat calories; they are so dense, the difference between a quarter cup and a half cup, for instance, is HUGE. I don't care how bad you think your metabolism is, if you are eating correctly, honestly, and watching sauces and creams and snacking, getting a fair amount of exercise in, you WILL lose weight. But if you resort to a lot of processed foods, if you aren't brutally honest with yourself about your consumption amounts, if you sit around more days than not, if you eat things too salty, etc...or eat too little (below 1000 calories too many days)...you will stall/not lose/even gain. It is science/biology. You clearly have to track better, longer, than you are. Or, perhaps, be more honest with yourself on your amounts. Eyeballing it simply doesn't work when it comes to losing weight.

Anonymous said...

Hi Lyn,

Just wanted to say don't be discouraged. Your weight is about the same as it was in July 2014, so assuming your metabolic rate hasn't significantly changed from your "Metabolic Testing: What's My Resting Metabolic Rate? " post due to thyroid issues, to maintain weight you need 1440 calories. If you are eating an average of 1000-1300 calories a day then you are in deficit 100-400 calories a day. 10 days in you are in deficit between 1000-4000 calories, to loose half a pound you would need to be in deficit 1750 calories so the numbers add up. Of course, it may be worth getting your thyroid re-tested to see if the number of calories you need to maintain your current weight has gone down.

Lyn said...

I think, if I want to do this without tracking, weighing, measuring, I have to eat more foods that the calories are already calculated or the calories don't matter (very low). I mean, if I eat a lot of non starchy vegetables, drinks that have nearly no calories like black coffee, plain tea, diet drinks, lemon water, sparkling water, and maybe switch from chicken to baked fish that would help. Also, all of the protein foods I am eating are pre portioned and most are around 100 calories. A few are 150-180 but I to notice those and cut back in other areas. The protein water is 60 calories and no carbs and keeps me full between meals so I may use that more often.

As far as eating more, I have done that sooo many times on this blog and gained. I counted calories so many times, trying different/higher levels and never have I lost weight eating more than my metabolic testing suggested.

Some of you are new and might want to check out the history of what I have done/tried:

http://www.escapefromobesity.net/2015/06/a-blog-summary-ups-and-downs.html

Kristi, I have not tried gingko biloba. I thought that was to help memory but I will look it up. Thanks for the suggestion!

Lori, bathroom stuff is regular. One habit I built years ago that I have not let slip is drinking lots of water. Every morning I wake up and drink 16 ounces. Then I have 16 more ounces with every meal and snack. That is not counting the iced tea, iced coffee, sparkling water etc I drink for the taste and the protein water I sometimes have as a snack. My body has adapted to that pretty well.

Thanks for all the helpful and encouraging comments!

Anonymous said...

My suggestion (for what it's worth): You lost weight on Medifast. You lost weight without feeling overly hungry while eating on Medifast, but in the end, couldn't stomach eating the foods any more. My suggestion is to replicate the macros/calories of Medifast with REAL FOODS. Not only would this be healthier than Medifast (and cheaper), you wouldn't get as burned out on the foods. It will take a lot more work than what you want to currently do (not weigh/measure and eat any food you want in moderation). It would require weighing/measuring foods until you have a good understanding of what you need to be eating.

Anonymous said...

How do you know how much you are even eating with a spoon of this and a slice of that?

Also, don't listen to the crazies who say eat MORE to lose weight. That is against the laws of physics. You don't see people in starving nations becoming obese from eating too little. No one "goes on a diet" by eating MORE calories. Common sense: if you are obese you are eating too much. Lower your calories until you lose weight and then stay there.

Rebecca Patterson said...

I've been a fan of your blog for a long time. Stop listening to all of us idiots making comments!!! No one REALLY cares about you, they just want to criticize you and feel smug about themselves. Eat more, eat less, starve yourself, eat more protein, eat less protein, stand on your head, stop saying this, don't be honest, be more honest, eat less carbs, eat more carbs, you are not a success, you're are a bad mother, you sound like a great mother, you are an inspiration.....I want to say I appreciate your honesty. It frustrates me but I keep coming back, so you are doing a service for all of us humans...fat, skinny, struggling...really living. Keep on keeping on, Girl!

Lyn said...

Anon 1~

Barbara from Refuse to Regain gave me the advice a couple years ago that she thought I should go back on Medifast, get the weight off, and then work on finding my ideal carb level for maintenance. I agree with her, I just can't do all the processed foods and only eat one meal a day (plus I don't get Medifast for free anymore). So your idea is a good one. I know I did really well with those specific stats (800-1000 cal/day, under 100g carbs/day, and over 72 g/protein/day... I forgot how much fat but could look it up). I could do that with real foods. I would have to track like you said. I think that will be my next approach if cutting back more on the eating and upping the biking doesn't give me results. Thanks.

Anon 2~

I do agree with you on the eating more thing. I am pretty sure I'd gain by eating more, going by experience (gained on 1440/day before). As for how I know how much I eat, well, "one chicken thigh" is just... one thigh. Five cherries is pretty straightforward. When I say 2 spoons of something I am talking about small spoons so maybe 1.5 tablespoons worth each. A slice of something is generally lunch meat or cheese and that is a pretty standard unit of measure. I don't make my spoons, slices, or bowls of food any bigger than normal; in fact my spoons and bowls of things are probably smaller than normal because I am trying to lose weight and cut back, not fit as much food as I can into a dish. When I say "a serving" it is a standard serving from a food label or if it is a recipe, a serving is the standard amount one might eat (like cutting a 9 by 13 pan of food into 12 servings).

Lyn said...

Rebecca~ lol, thank you :)

Anonymous said...

You are wrong. How can you say eating one chicken thigh is one thigh? Thighs vary greatly in weight. If that's your mindset, no wonder you are having problems.

You really need to eat a minimum of 1200 calories. Anything less, and the body does go into starvation mode. That internet verifiable.

Anonymous said...

Saying you have to eat more to lose weight is anything but crazy. I have personally witnessed in others and experienced in myself dropping weight while calories are plenty high.

You can't cite thermodynamics as the be all end all of weight but then shrug when asked about that one friend who eats whatever and stays thin and say "Some people are just lucky." It's not luck. It's set point.

Manipulating set point is less straightforward than simple restriction, but it works with your body's natural weight regulation systems. Pure calorie restriction forces the body to pull from fat as well as muscle, organs, and bones. It's like losing weight by chopping off a limb; that is, it's technically weight loss but it's not exactly healthy.

Anonymous said...

p.s. 1 lb. equals 3500 calories. So if you are off even 125 calories a day, that alone is 1 lb. a month. If you are off 300 calories a day, we are talking almost 3 lbs. in just one month. Little amount do add up significantly over time.

Kristi said...

Sorry, I meant garçinia cambogia

Lyn said...

Anon/thighmaster~

well, I'd probably say "one very small chicken thigh" or "one BIG chicken thigh" if the size was unusual.

(lol @ "internet verifiable", that is kind of funny!) My doctor actually monitored my heath while I was on Medifast, averaging 900-1000 calories a day. He did blood work and check ups regularly and there were never ANY signs of malnutrition, let alone starvation (which actually will show up as changes in blood chemistry).

Anon/limbless~

I agree with most of what you said. I wonder why, then, when I did that "refeeding", higher calorie eating experiment a couple years back, why did I just keep gaining? And why did I gain on 2500, 2000, 1800, 1550, and 1440? I maintained in the 1300s, each time.

Also, even if one measured and counts obsessively they are going to be off by some amount. A chicken thigh from vendor 1 was fed differently and has a slightly different nutrition composition from one from vendor 2. You would have to weigh everything, lettuce, grapes, berries, celery stalks, apples, eggs, instead of logging "1 medium apple" or "1 large egg". You would still be off because man processed foods' nutrition information labelling is off when the food is tested in a laboratory. There is really no way to know if you are off by 100 calories a week or not. Tracking and logging is just a close estimate, a tool. So is using pre-measured protein bars and shakes or eyeballing food.

Kristi~

oh okay! I may even have some of that around here. Thanks!

Anonymous said...

Why do you think you lost weight when you ate what you wanted when you stopped blogging? Surely you were not eating 1000 calories then.

Lyn said...

last anon~

I think it was because I was gluten free. Eating "what I wanted" was a lot more limited with the restriction of NO gluten, not even a trace. It cut out a lot of restaurant meals and carbs, so what I chose was in a much more restricted frame (i.e., if I wanted dessert there was usually no cake or pie or cookies I could have unless I baked them myself, so I'd just have fruit or a scoop of ice cream. If I was out running errands and got hungry I basically would have a drink to tide me over, like unsweetened iced tea or coffee, and go home and make something there.)

Another thought to those talking about starving myself (which I do not agree I am doing): if I said I was going to have WLS I a pretty sure everyone would be supportive of that. But that is TRUE starvation, at least in the beginning when all you can eat is fluids, or later very tiny amounts of food. I am definitely eating more than I would be if I had WLS but yet that is lauded as a good choice for the obese because "starving" for a bit is healthier than staying obese long term. Right?

Anonymous said...

You probably gained while refeeding because you were previously restricted. Refeeding results in weight gain initially if you're coming off of calorie restriction. Plus, if you're doing a "low and slow" kind of refeeding, that can extend the period of weight gain and extent of weight gain.

I don't think you refed for long enough to see the entire process. My experience has been that someone who has gone through chronic restriction will gain weight for between 10 to 24 months during refeeding (depends on the level of calorie deficit they're in). After a certain point, the body just stops gaining weight. As long as one does not restrict *at all* during the process (i.e., no spurts of a couple weeks' dieting here and there), their weight will then start to fall on its own, if they overshot during refeeding. This usually starts happening after a few months of weight stabilization. The entire tapering process can take an additional 1-2 years.

The downside is that it takes a fairly long time to accomplish. The upside is that you end up at your natural set point, which can be estimated by looking at your growth curves through child- and young adulthood. You don't have to watch every calorie because your body defends that set point on its own through a variety of methods.

This approach works well but most people will never try it because of the overwhelming fear of gaining and gaining forever. The only demographic that regularly uses it are significantly underweight sufferers of eating disorders, because it's seen as "acceptable" for them to do so, culturally.

Lyn said...

note: I wrote down *everything* that went into my mouth for a week and reported it on the blog. There was nothing omitted or forgotten, because I noted it on a paper every time I put anything in my mouth.

Lyn said...

last Anon~

yes, that makes sense. I do fear that if I ate 2500 or 3000 a day I would soon end up back near 300 pounds. It wouldn't take me long. I admit I don't have enough faith in the process to risk it.

Anonymous said...

That's a reasonable fear, Lyn. I wasn't criticizing you for not taking that route. I think for a lot of people it's just too far removed from conventional wisdom to be viable.

I was more responding to the commenters who seem bound and determined to believe that it is physiologically impossible to lose weight on "excess" calories. The fundamental misunderstanding of the way the body manages weight rubbed me the wrong way.

That being said, I'm not claiming it would definitely absolutely work for you anyway. There are factors that can interfere with the process working smoothly. I wouldn't recommend attempting it unless you were working with someone specifically knowledgeable about it who could guide you.

Lyn said...

Someone emailed me a method of "counting bites instead of calories! You may eat 80 bites a day. When you reach your 80th bite, stop eating. Simple!"

Anyone ever tried this? I think I would hate counting bites because I hate counting anything, but am curious if anyone here has feedback.

Anonymous said...

--Someone emailed me a method of "counting bites instead of calories! You may eat 80 bites a day. When you reach your 80th bite, stop eating. Simple!"--

This is obviously a terrible terrible method; Imagine the scenario of eating 80 bites of chocolate versus 80 bites of fruits and veggies. The fact that you would even consider this makes it sound like you aren't willing to put in the work to lose weight.

1. counting calories for two days does not allow you to extrapolate that you eat that many calories on other days. count calories every single day.

2. maybe you are not seeing results because you are underestimating how many calories you are eating?

3. maybe instead of simply limiting yourself to cardio exercise you should do some muscle building exercise as well. muscle burns more calories than fat does.

Lyn said...

Anon~

That fact that you felt a public, anonymous comment that I am not willing to put in the work to lose weight makes you look like a troll. Let me assume you're not, though. Imagine that no one in their right mind would interpret this suggestion as "eat 80 bites of chocolate" because obviously it would make you sick and you would be unhealthy and hungry. Just like no one in their right mind would take "eat 1200 calories a day" as a cue to go eat 1200 calories in hot fudge sundaes. I just thought it was an interesting suggestion and wondered if anyone had tried it.

I counted 2 days. Someone else (commenter) counted 2 of my other days. That leaves 3 days uncounted but by looking at the menus it is pretty obvious I am not overeating. Protein bars/foods are pre-measured and counted, so that takes the guesswork out of a lot of it. But don't worry, if I am wrong it'll be okay because I am eating less this week.

Lyn said...

For those who think I am eating more than I might think, which day of my menus is most questionable? I look back over my week. I mean, if I said I ate "a few" cherries it is literally a few like 3 or 4. If it is more than that I said 5 or 6. A lot of my food is pre portioned protein food, already counted. I cannot find a single day of my menus that is ambiguous enough that I might be eating more than I think. If you pick a day that YOU think I ate too much, I will log it and report back exactly what I got, erring on the side of larger portions (i.e. if I thought a chicken thigh was 3 ounces, I'll log it as 4 just in case I was wrong).

Anonymous said...

I think you most likely ate more than you think you did on Monday with both pizza and calacita. Those seem more calorie and fat dense than you might think.

Anonymous said...

How about cutting out all packaged and processed foods?

Lyn said...

Anon~

okay, here's what I posted I ate, with explanation, calories below each line. I got these number tracking on Sparkpeople.

Monday
Breakfast: black decaf coffee, 1 babybel cheese, 2 slices deli ham, iced diet Snapple peach tea
8 oz coffee - 2 cal, 1 original mini Babybel - 70 cal, 2 slices Hormel natural choice smoked ham - 30 cal, 8 oz diet Peach Snapple - 5 cal BREAKFAST TOTAL: 107 cal

Lunch: small bowl (less than a cup) of leftover calabacita, topped with grated cheese and a spoon of light sour cream. Dill pickle spear.
I believe this was about 2 oz cooked ground beef but let's count 3 oz in case I was wrong. It could not be more than 3 oz because at least half the cup was vegetables. 3 oz 97% lean ground beef, cooked, drained -135 cal, canned diced tomatoes, 1/4 c - 15 cal, the rest was mixed veggies, all of which are under 12 calories per 1/4 cup, so I used the highest cal (mushrooms) - 11 cal. Grated sharp cheddar: I think it was a tablespoon but entered 2 Tbsp in case I am wrong. 2 Tbsp cheddar - 57 cal. a spoon of Daisy light sour cream (a tablespoon, probably less) but in case I am way off, I logged 2 Tbsp - 40 cal. 1 Vlasic zesty dill pickle spear - 5 cal. LUNCH TOTAL: 263 cal

Snack: sparkling water
1 12 oz can of La Croix sparkling water - 0 cal

Dinner: slice of thin crust pizza with steak, mushrooms, and onions.
Papa Murphy's large Angus Steak and roasted garlic DeLite pizza, cut into eight pieces, one piece - 220 cal (That is counting the crust edge, which I did not eat). DINNER TOTAL: 220 cal

Snack: a few olives, a few cherries
3 or 4... let's count 4... canned California green ripe olives in water and sea salt - 20 cal fresh red Bing cherries, 3 or 4 of these but hey, let's count five in case I forgot one. 5 cherries - 20 cal SNACK TOTAL: 40 cal

My total for that day, OVER estimating, surprises me. Only 630 calories. Interesting.


Lyn said...

other anon~

have you done that? I'd like to see a couple days of your menus for inspiration. Thanks!

As of right now I am not at the point to do that. I feel I need some easy foods to grab when I am busy and do like the shakes and bars once in awhile. I am not ready to give up all cheese, olives, prepared meats, smoked salmon, roasted nuts, canned coconut milk for cooking, etc and not even sure it would help me much. Some days I just don't feel like making a meal or prepping anything and it's nice to grab a protein bar. There are some healthy ones out there without junk in them.

Anonymous said...

So I skimmed through the comments and I apologize if I missed this. Why not replicate the exact strategy&technique that helped you lose weight before?

LHA said...

This may sound silly or simplistic but one of the keys to weight loss for me is to weigh no more than once a month. I would consider a loss of two or three pounds a victory at the end of the month. It is assured that if I weigh too often I get discouraged and usually eat something that isn't helpful with weight loss because it seems "why not"? I also exercise for an hour a day religiously. Some days I work harder than others, and my workout might be considered insufficient by some people but having that rule I feel like at least I did my part for fitness. I do NOT consider the exercise to be the key to losing weight because for me it isn't. What I eat is much more important. Good luck! You are certainly trying everything and are open to any suggestions, which is just great.

Lyn said...

last Anon~

The first time I lost weight I counted calories and biked, and that got 64 pounds off and then I stopped losing. I counted calories and biked for almost 2 years without getting below 214. So when I do that (I have done it in the last couple years) I maintain unless I get below 1300 cal/day and bike as well... which I am willing to do but am burned out on the weighing, measuring, counting part. Trying to get low enough and now adding the bike and see if it gets results. The other time I lost significant weight was on Medifast, and I don't have access to those foods anymore (they sent them for free). I am considering doing that exact nutritional profile using non-Medifast foods. I am pretty sure I could do that.

Lyn said...

Thanks, LHA! I appreciate you sharing :)

Anonymous said...

"You really need to eat a minimum of 1200 calories. Anything less, and the body does go into starvation mode. That internet verifiable"

The ignorance here is baffling - please don't listen to nonsense like this.

I quote:
Starvation mode is real, but it’s not as powerful as some people think.

It can make weight loss slow down over time, but it won’t cause someone to gain weight despite restricting calories.

It’s also not an “on and off” phenomenon, like some people seem to think. It’s an entire spectrum of the body adapting to either increased or decreased calorie intake.

Starvation mode is actually a terribly inaccurate term. Something like “metabolic adaptation” or “metabolic slowdown” would be much more appropriate.

This is simply the body’s natural physiological response to reduced calorie intake. Without it, humans would have become extinct thousands of years ago.

Unfortunately, this protective response can cause more harm than good where overfeeding is a much, much greater threat to human health than starvation.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for continuing to write about your struggle. I know it's not easy to be honest about this stuff. You will get this done this time. What that looks like or comprises is the question. Hang in there never give up!

Anonymous said...

Anything which restricts your calories below your maintenance level (e.g. counting bites, eating nothing but vegetables, intermittent fasting, whatever) will result in weight loss but I think counting bites is probably the least efficient and most annoying way of going about it.

Anonymous said...

Why not just actually weigh foods on a digital scale instead of estimating? I know you've done that before and it led to 'obsessive thoughts,' but doing it for even a week or two in order to eliminate all guesswork when it comes to calories seems like it would get rid of many of the doubts you and others have about your intake.

Bodybuilders live like this for months at a time and aren't even overweight. They pack tupperwares for when they have to eat out of the house. Zero food goes uncounted. That was how Medifast worked, wasn't it?

It sounds like you are willing to go extreme in order to lose weight. You could try this for a week or two. I mean, look--the more accurate you are the more RELAXED you can be knowing you've eaten the right amounts, right?

I personally weighed/measured all food on a digital scale for months at a time when I was simply trying to lower my body fat %. I loosened up when I reached my goal but still often to back to weighing foods just to get a check in there. It was really stunning to me how easy it was to miscalculate the size of 3 oz (85 grams) of meat. Seriously. And I'm a good eyeballer and wasn't even overweight to begin with. It's an eye-opener.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5sovhvLAig

Lyn said...

last Anon~

With Medifast, I only had to weigh/measure one meal a day. All the rest of the food came in packets, so it was just any 5 Medifast packets plus 4-6 oz meat and 3 servings of low carb veggies. Very easy and I would do that again (weigh/measure one meal a day). It took my mind off food instead of creating obsession, because the packets were something you never have to think about. I wonder if I could find some bulk protein shake with similar stats to Medifast and do something similar again.

I am ok with measuring on occasion to check myself; I did that for two days this week. It reassures *me* that I am fairly accurate, but it will never reassure some readers. Even when I was weighing and measuring every bite on a food scale and/or measuring cups, I had people commenting that I must not be doing it right, I must be eating more than I say, etc... so whatever I do, I have to basically do for me. Thank you for the thoughtful comment!

MaryFran said...

That is totally frustrating! I've been there...doing everything by the book (whatever book it may be at the time!)

My words of advice....I have always heard to not go under 1200 calories...your body thinks it's starving and starts storing fat. The other thing....try something different. We each have a 'magic formula' to lose weight and/or maintain our weight. The formula may be totally different from every one else's. Furthermore the formula may work for you one year but the next year may need tweaked!!!!!! Keep going there is a light at the end of the tunnel!!!

Anonymous said...

In your calorie count above, that brand of ham has 60 calories a slice! You are way off.

Lyn said...

MaryFran~

Thanks, I am still plugging along... having my black decaf coffee every morning and eating small amounts, less frequently. I think with the biking added this is going to work :) But if not, you're right... I will find my 'formula'! Thanks for the encouragement :)

Anon~

You are mistaken. There are 60 calories in one SERVING of that ham. If you read the Nutrition Facts/label, one SERVING is 56 grams, which happens to be about 4 slices of ham. I had two slices of ham, which is half a serving and 30 calories.

I am not saying I never make mistakes, but when I count calories I am very careful and accurate, because I hate counting calories and doing it inaccurately makes the whole thing pointless. Also, I am a research scientist so yeah, I am into accuracy and if I am counting I want the data to be useful and not just guesswork.

fitteratfortyish said...

All these "anonymous" commenters in here giving advice? I'd really like to see and verify that they are and have been successful in LOSING SIGNIFICANT WEIGHT using their advice. People who have never really been heavy, just don't qualify because they honestly can't say what it was that kept them from ever being heavy (eg genetics).

I feel your pain about feeling "why try?" when results come slowly. I always say, "go back to what worked before" and I do admit that to my mind, it seems like you are under eating. For me, and my body, I have lost better when I ate more (and lost less when I ate less, contrary to the so-called "laws of physics", not, LOL). Many people in the LCHF community report better losses when adding fat to their diets. This is something I personally haven't tried - can't get my mind around it - but you can't deny the many reports of this working for many people. YMMV, which is what stops me personally from trying it. I have, though, maintained a 70-lb loss for over a year now, for what that's worth.

Anyway my real point: beware anonymous commenters. I take them and their "advice" with a big, huge, grain of salt.

Rachel rbs said...

Keep at it. I ended up losing a big fat ZERO pounds during June, but that was after a 10 pound loss in May. It can be so frustrating!

W said...

I'm sorry, Lyn. I've been there, too. I hope the scale starts moving quicker soon.

Deb from DC said...

Hi Lyn, Here's a bit of encouragement. I came across your blog about 2 months ago, not too long after I went back on Adkins (Try No 2). I didn't have a scale, but estimated my weight at 275. Finding your original "278" blog was so encouraging. I've been obese since puberty and am now 62. And I finally just said, "Enough!" Out went all carbs, all grains and flour, all lactose-maltose-dextrose-almost all fructose. 20 carbs/day. So, 10 weeks in, I'd lost 35 pounds from my original estimate. And you have helped! But last week, for no reason, I showed a 2 pound increase. We both know that we can't focus on these little things. It's the ultimate change of life eating habits that matter. You've already done this...you know how to do it...and you'll do it again. How's this for a mantra? "Nothing tastes as good as being thin feels." Thanks for your honesty and your bravery.

lilypad said...

Lyn,
I have never commented here, but I want you to consider this as a way to proceed.

1. Continue tracking your calories if you think that helps you confirm what you are eating in terms of calories, with your current set at 1000 cal/day
2. Keep your activity levels up - whether it is walking, biking, or chasing the dog around the neighborhood.Move as much as you are able as often during the day as you are able.
3. KEEP AT IT. 10 days is nothing. Consistency is the key. Maybe you didn't lose - but you didn't gain. Give your body some time to adjust. Maybe track you weight as you are with the idea that you will stick with your program WITHOUT changes for 3-4 weeks. If at that time your weight hasn't budged - try tweeking 1 or 2 things. This my help you figure out what WILL work for YOU. We are all different.
4. The hardest part of this is patience. But you know how important this is for you to get the weight off. Be willing to delay instant gratification (the number on the scale going down), with your long term goal.

Feel free to completely ignore my advice. :)

Vanessa said...

Hi Lyn,

I just wanted to add a comment. I'm a pretty average weight person, I've been 180 pounds and I've been 140 pounds at 5'7". I'm currently 153. I don't count calories, I'm gluten free (celiac) and I workout maybe 2-3 times a week for 30 minutes, but I also walk for nearly an hour a day.

I used to eat paleo, but I believe that a lot of processed food and diets don't work. Paleo was great, but I found it hard to maintain because quality of meat is really important and it's expensive. When I was 180, I was cooking less and eating more cheese and junk.

Seeing what you posted during Monday was odd...can you try to add more nutritious meals to your day? Here is an example...

What you had for breakfast: black decaf coffee, 1 babybel cheese, 2 slices deli ham, iced diet Snapple peach tea
Why don't you try: black coffee (decaf or not), 2 eggs, 1/4 avocado, water with lemon or cucumber (ie. cut out the processed and diet junk)

What you had for Lunch: small bowl (less than a cup) of leftover calabacita, topped with grated cheese and a spoon of light sour cream. Dill pickle spear.
Why don't you try: a salad with spinach, pecans, sunflower seeds, roasted or BBQ chicken breast, balsamic vinegar with a bit of olive oil as dressing.

What you had as a Snack: sparkling water
Why don't you try: cucumber, celery and cherry tomatoes with hummus or another kind of simple dip

What you had for Dinner: slice of thin crust pizza with steak, mushrooms, and onions.
Why don't you try: cauliflower rice (or spaghetti squash) with ground beef or steak, mushrooms, peppers, sweet potato, a bit of feta and onions

What you had as a Snack: a few olives, a few cherries
Nothing wrong with that.

I dunno, I just feel like the processed junk is really the culprit. Meal planning can really help with ensuring you're on a healthy path.

Just a thought!
Vanessa

Lyn said...

The last few comments have been great and I really appreciate the input and encouragement! Thanks guys, I really do feel supported and buoyed up by your strength. I am still working my plan... had black coffee for breakfast, some deli ham and a slice of cheddar and some iced coffee with a splash of cream for lunch. Not a lot of food so far, but also almost no carbs. I will get the fruits and veggies in for snacks and dinner for sure! I am going to bake some chicken breast and cube it up to have on salads and to start moving away from the deli meat, although I still think it is fine once in awhile. Good ideas to just move towards the more natural and less processed.

Xani said...

I just want to second what lilypad said above- you are doing great and you just need to keep at it. Slow and steady, and 1/2LB in the last 10 days is better than nothing or than gaining! Keep those carbs low, healthy fats up and keep going! Best of luck and have a great holiday!!

Anonymous said...

It seems to me that you are desperately trying to "reinvent the wheel" while that work is already done for you.
There are no shortcuts.

I am sure this has been said many times before but why don't you try the WWs? (I do not work for them and don't get any money from them)

I have been on and off since like 1990-s and I quit every time after losing 10 pounds because I got so hungry I couldn't take it any more.

But what is different this time (that I absolutely love) is that lean meats are so ridiculously low in points. I have to admit I have eaten up to 8 ounces of chicken breast or steak 3 meals a day. That keeps the hunger away for sure! Of course fruits and veggies have no points (I still kinda watch the fruits, you can't really eat 5 pounds of grapes a day and still lose)

And when I eat tons of leans meats I have so many points left over for the day that I have to eat some high-point nuts to meet my daily goal.

What is most important is that this plan does not allow you to under eat either, you must eat all you points. So you won't be eating 600 calories a day.

AND if you are not losing you can talk to your leader and discuss your eating and get some tips what to do better.

Ok, saying it again, I do not get paid by WWs. I am paying to them.

Anonymous said...

Hello. I would first like to implore you to excersize use regularly regardless of weight loss. It is simply an essential part of a healthy life, independent of weight loss or how you want to look. When I mean willful and progressive efforts solely centered around fitness. As far as supplements, I do think there are a few that could help you. If you really are restricting calories apprpriately, meaning not over or under restricting, and if you are making consistent progress fitness wise, and still not seeing changes in your body you have some other issues going on. Perhaps hormonal issues involving thyroid or cortisol. The thing about supplenmentation, is that you really need to know what supplements are actually needed by your body. There is no point in blindly taking supplements that may or may not be beneficial to you. You need to see a doctor in order to access proper supplementation. One supplement that you could start and text for a month would be Phosphotidylserine. It will tremendously lower stress related spikes in cortisol, which can cause non-caloric weight gain, specifically in you midsection. If you do have some cortisol mediated weight issues, you shod see a marked increase in weight loss within 2-3 weeks. I can see that you are very much an emotional eater, and a suspect an aversion to accepting the fitness aspect of this journey. The last thing you need to do is look for reasons why you don't have control over your body, because more than likely, those reasons only exist your mind. In the unlikely event that you do have a hormonal issue, you have to understand that that has to be addresses from all angles-diet, excercise, detoxification, proper supplenmentation, possibly medication, and yes regular exercise. Hormonal imbalance itself is simy not going to put 50, 60,100+ excess pounds on you. What it will do is encourage behaviors that will do just that (i.e. emotional eating, sluggishness, lack of motivation, unhealthy cravings, negativity, feeling like crap so why try syndrome, depression, anxiety ....) So medication and supplements will only address the medical aspect of your weight, not the behavioral. That's on you. You have address these issues for your overall well being. Get off the scale, it is obviously not God for you. Think about your habits, think about your thinking. You are human and you can take your life back like others have. I know because I did. Been through everything you are going through, everything you are thinking. The truth is you can get on this blog and tell people whatever you want, but you know your truth. You are going to have to overcome your emotional eating. The only way to do that is to actress what has happened in your life that made you turn to food as a drug. We are all so needy and t people turn to drugs of their choice to meet those needs. As an obese person, you have to wear the consequences of your drug use. The world sees your struggle while the opiate addict, the bulimic, the pot head, the abused, the abusers, and alcoholics walk by unnoticed and unexposed. Is that fair? No. But living in the pity and anger of that unfairness ain't gonna get you anywhere. You have to deal with the situation your are in, and just like that recovered druggie or alchoholic, you have a tough road ahead to overcome this thing. There are certain things you will have to give up, and certain things you will have to do that people around you simply don't have to worry about at all. But that's okay, because you can only deal with YOUR problems. What is your life worth to you? Your vitality? Your dreams? I know in my heart of hearts that you cannot sit there and say you are willing to give up those things over food. FOOD. People in this country are giving there lives away over food. You need to take some time and think about everything this struggle has cost you. Think long and hard daily until you have your moment of clarity. Only then will you be ready to go foward and not look back. Good luck.