Monday, February 16, 2015

Clearing Up Some Things


I got some interesting comments and emails about my last post, so I wanted to clear up a couple of things, just so people understand what I am doing here.

First, no, I did not bake dozens and dozens of AIP treats and eat them all instead of meat and produce. I made 6 AIP apple cinnamon rolls, 6 pumpkin breakfast cookies, and 15 sweet potato creme pies. Those "pies" are an inch and a half across... not big at all. All of them are gluten free, junk free, nutritious, AIP compliant, low sugar, and after trying them they went into the freezer. My meals are made from the foods I listed after the pictures: chicken, fish, pork, beef, lots of vegetables and some fruit. For example, last night I had chicken, cauliflower, onions, and kale.

Remember that I am coming off a couple years of regain, chronic pain, losses of loved ones, and depression. The last few months over the winter (after going off AIP last fall) were tough. I didn't feel any motivation... zero... to make changes to my diet or to be active at all. It was rough. A month or so ago I started to feel like I was coming out of it and finally *wanting* to do something about my health and my emotional/physical well being. This... AIP... is my first step in coming out of a long period of difficulty and feeling better about myself, and taking care of myself.

Goals:

I am doing AIP for two reasons. 1) My doctor recommended I do an elimination diet. This is just one way to accomplish that, so my #1 priority right now is to ONLY eat foods from the AIP approved list for at least 30 days. Once I have succeeded at that, I want to slowly reintroduce various foods one at a time. My doctor thinks I have some "food sensitivities" which are not the same as allergies (true allergies can cause fatal reactions) but can still cause health issues in a sensitive person. For example, some people have worsened arthritis pain from eating nightshades. By adding suspect foods back in one at a time, I should be able to isolate any foods that are a problem for me. 2) AIP is supposed to help with autoimmune diseases, from what I have read. I have Hashimoto's thyroid, an autoimmune disease. I was having symptoms related to this prior to starting medication and AIP, and want to see if eating this way helps keep those symptoms at bay and stop my body from attacking my thyroid.

You might notice that "eating like a caveman", "only eating plain whole foods", and "losing weight" are *not* in my list of goals. That's because I listed my goals above and those things I listed ARE my goals. They are linked to better health. They *may* result in weight loss, and yes my long-term goal is still to re-lose this weight. I am sure happy when I see the scale go down! But if the scale goes up, I still need to continue with AIP through the reintroductions. I know I may have to start counting calories and/or carbs in order to see consistent weight loss. But I am focused right now on *staying on AIP.* It is not an easy diet to follow, at least for me. Try it if you like, and see. It's not terribly hard for me right now because I am making darn sure I have AIP-compliant foods that I like on hand for any occasion: holidays, birthdays, company coming, potlucks, days where I just want to have a cookie with my tea. But as I said, my main priority right now is to stay on this elimination diet and get the results I need for my health. I know if I start counting calories and measuring everything NOW it would be too much for me to deal with. For my success, I have to focus on one thing at a time here, and for now that's staying 100% AIP.

When I have reintroduced a few things and it's a bit easier, I know that I may very well have to start weighing/measuring/counting calories again in order to see weight loss. And when weight loss is my focus again, I'll have to make some changes to have that happen.

As for exercise, I know moving is vital for health. I still am not terribly motivated to exercise (low energy) but am trying each week to walk my dogs a bit more often and further. I am definitely more active than I was when I had plantar fasciitis and really do love being able to go more places, do more things, clean and do yard work without pain. But I still would rather go out and work in the yard than go to the gym. We'll see where this goes over time.

I hope that clears up why I am doing this and what I hope to accomplish.


44 comments:

R.E. said...

I know it must've stung, or stunned you, when you received the comments to your last post.

I think I can speak not just for myself when I say that your post stunned some of your longtime readers as well.

For most people who are normal, non-disordered eaters, cooking/preparing (cookies, chips, custard, cinnamon rolls, and cream pies - your terms/labels, not mine) all in the same week is not something that would ever happen except maybe for Thanksgiving. For people who've lost a significant amount of weight, or people recovering from eating disorers, cooking/preparing cookies, chips, custard, cinnamon rolls, and cream pies in any form would just feel like giving in to the addiction.

I do hear what you're saying about trying to find motivation by any means necessary. But when we've watched these exact means steer you wrong before, or put you on a path to disaster (gaming the Medifast system, chocolate cake for dinner, the overindulging in THINKING about food even - you've always said you feel and do the best when you're not consumed with food details, and in this post you certainly are), it's just hard to see a post like this and not want to jump in front of you with arms waving, screaming NOOOO!

Anonymous said...

It's nice and patient you to detail all this again. You've gone a good job of being clear about your goals and reasons, so I'm thinking if you got lots of questions and judgement, those people just are either not readers of your blog or just want to judge.
Allison

Lyn said...

R.E.~

Thank you for explaining. I can see where people would be worried. And I am not saying you're wrong! This has not been an easy thing for me and I am still trying to figure out what will work in the long term, not just for a few months.

The 'doing better when not consumed with food details' is exactly why I took two days this week and just bulk cooked. Made lots of things for future use. Now I won't need to even think about baking for he rest of the month and maybe beyond. Now instead of wondering what I will do when I have company staying later this month, I know I will be okay even if they bring a cheesecake or buy a dozen donuts to share. I know I have not only soup, proteins, and vegetables at the ready but also some treats. That's why I wanted to do all my baking at once... so it's done and I can focus on other stuff now instead of food.

Anonymous said...

Hey there Lyn, I've been reading your blog for a while and never really wanted to comment before mostly because I didn't know what to say.

I am a binge eater in recovery and I really do understand how difficult it is to stick to a strict eating plan. Maybe you just have to focus on eating healthy, satisfying meals each day. It might be better for your mind and body. Sometimes we have to push ourselves out of the comfort zone to discover that there are different paths to reach our goals... I know you probably think AIP is the best choice for you right now, but maybe it just isn't, maybe you have to start from 0 with a different plan - I might be wrong, but that's just my opinion.

Also I think that maybe for now you don't really need to exercise but to become more active. Just walking a few blocks a day can be a start. Then you can add more distance, make physical activity an habit, something that is part of your daily routine, and when you're ready you can make it more intense. I promise you it makes a huge difference, not just on how you look on the long-therm but on how you feel. Exercise meant breaking the bingeing cycle for me.

I know this crap is hard to deal with, just don't give up, this is slow, tough, but not impossible, just try your best from your position.

You go girl, you can do this,
hugs.

PS: Sorry for any writing mistakes, english is not my first language.

- istruggl.ed@gmail.com

Anonymous said...

What does Cloe think of your goals and plan?

Deb Willbefree said...

Well, okay. I havent read the comments from last post--and I will as soon as I post this comment--but I did read the post itself.

Frankly, I thought what you wrote about doing last post was exactly what you needed to do. It would have been disastrous for me, but you're not me. :}

You are not diabetic, so what for me would have been too high in carbs, is fine for you, especially since your plan was to get the cooking over with at one time and freeze the items...as opposed to eating them all in one sitting.

You like to cook and mess aboaut in the kitchen (not me) so you indulged in an activity that gave you pleasure without eating out of control--while setting yourself up with easy to grab food.

You made it clear that your goal was to do the AIP process and that the ingredients you used were AIP compliant. You also stated that the whole "What can I eat?" daily routine was troublesome. (I find it troublesome, too. And, in fact, it has derailed me!)

I think the key is this: If you can eat in control while cooking/baking for two days thus providing yourself a quick access to AIP food, WAHOO! you. If you get bingey, and eat thru your stash in an evening--will, you'll know it only seemed like a good idea on paper.

I know that I just recently read in either The Primal Blueprint or the Paleo Approach for AIP, the very advice to do what you just did: batch cooking to have ready access to compliant food.

And you've lost two pounds! You had been gaining a pound a week. So...if we look at it the way our government looks at the deficit, if you had not begun AIP, you would have gained a pound a week for the two weeks, instead of losing that two pounds--which means you're four pounds ahead. :D

Good job.

Deb

Joanna said...

I guess I don't understand why anyone would want to micromanage your eating plan. I have noticed a lot of black/white thinking, i.e., if you don't do it how I say to do it, then you are doing it wrong. There are "holier than thou" thinking patterns out there. I tried all sorts of things and what works for me may not work for you. I eat a fairly spartan plan. If you read the commenters on My Fitness Pal, a calorie is a calorie--everything in moderation, etc. That doesn't work for me. My diet has to be for forever and if I chose to concoct some treats, then I would concoct some treats. Stay to the plan and you will feel better and better all the time.

R.E. said...

That's fair. The post read much more like "look at all these yummy treats I made" (the details, the pictures) than "here is one of many tools I am using to keep myself on the right track."

I hope you will post soon about your feelings while exercising and maybe about your therapy! Of course you don't have to, but if you're getting that balance in your life I hope (And would expect to be honest) it can be reflected for us observers.

Lyn said...

Anonymous~

Cloe thinks calorie counting and measuring my food would be a step backwards. But she hasn't given me any option for weight loss without doing that. I think because she has generally worked with anorexics who need to eat MORE, she gives me some advice that is more suited towards that kind of ED. She has always said that eating sweets (any sweets... candy bars, whatever) in moderation would be a good thing. I have to disagree with her on that, though.

Thanks Deb :)

R.E.~

I hope so too! I walked about a mile today and 1.5 yesterday. Trying to make it a habit.

Anonymous said...

and on a good note you dropped two pounds...woohoooo

way to go lyn!

yea u r low on energy cause ur carb content is low....

as for the yummy stuff, you know your own limits....so if you had to find yourself gravitating towards eating more yummy than more veggie i am sure you would rethink doing a batch of that stuff again...
we don't need to tell you what is best for you...you already know.

have a good week lyn....

woohooo, 4lbs of pressure off ur kneess...woohooo!!!!!

so wa said...

Hi Lynn,
I am new to your blog but I'm catching up :) in the beginning i was reading 'back', but i loved your writing and felt like you were my best friend. So i changed tactics and went to your archives and began from the beginning. I'm up to beginning 2010.... oh wow you have gone through so much and you are still going strong!
I haven't read the old comments yet but i think you know what you are doing so just keep going!
I'm trying to lose weight and be healthy. And you are an inspiration!

LovelyDreams said...

Hi Lyn, I've stopped blogging because I can't find the balance between public and private life. I'm still on my journey and still finding inspiration from you.

This is one of my favorite posts of yours; http://www.escapefromobesity.net/2010/03/void-refilled.html?m=1

I loved it because it truly opened my eyes to the fact that I have an eating disorder and that it's not about food but about what I am not doing/feeling while eating/thinking about food. But I think the part at the beginning where you discussed using different foods to recreate treats and how that was disastrous for you might be what has your commenters concerned. The post was a long time ago (for you) do it may no longer apply. But it has stuck in my mind and perhaps in others' as well.

Winner at a Losing Game said...

It would not occur to me to write a comment about what you are eating or have prepared. This is your journey and not mine to judge. I am not sure that your blog is really asking for others to analyze your every morsel of food. I think we all have to find our own way and to me, this is what you are blogging about. I really wish people could keep from casting their own process on others. I know it doesn't do me any good.

Lyn said...

LovelyDreams~

Wow, what a blast from the past. I remember how it felt writing that and how freeing that was, and also, later, how disturbing it was to me to not "care about" food. It was so different than what I had been used to for decades. I am definitely not there again at this point... I still think about food way more than I did on Medifast. There is something so freeing about those packets, and some days I really want to go back and "try it again".

I think right now I am in between the two states I wrote about in that blog. I don't spend all my time on food thoughts, but I do spend more than I probably should. It kind of started as my Pinterest boards: pinning lots of delicious-looking AIP foods that come across my Facebook feed or my blog reading feed. In my down time I like to look through the boards and pick something to try. I am honestly not sure if that's a detriment or not. Seems like using Pinterest to find creative breakfasts or AIP dinners that my family would like is a "good" thing, but maybe using it to find "treats" is not so good. What do you think?

I am not sure if I can detach from all food again the way I did on Medifast or if that would even be healthy. Or sustainable. I am not sure if that is a goal I should be pursuing or not. Feedback welcome.

I do think/know that if I just eat "Lean and Green" style meals (just meat and vegetables with a healthy fat) for every meal I do detach and get to that state of "I don't care about food at all." But I'm not so sure if that is a healthy state for me or not.

Really this is one of the most helpful comments I've gotten. You've made me think and I thank you for it! I will try to be more aware of how much time/how many times a day I am turning to food thoughts or eating to fill that space in my head where more important things should be.

Lyn said...

Winner~

You're right, I don't blog for feedback on my food! I actually scratch my head when people tell me I am doing it wrong, or should be doing some other plan, or that I am going to fail. I don't get it... but, I have also gotten those kinds of comments since I started blogging. When I was on Medifast some said I should be counting calories. When I was counting calories some said I should eat more, some said eat less. Some said go back to Medifast, some said try Weight Watchers. Etc. You can't please everyone! I blog to keep track of what I'm doing and for accountability, and also hope what I write may help others.

I like comments but critical ones that tell me to switch plans or that I am doing everything wrong are not helpful. Sometimes I get comments (like the one above) that are genuinely offering insight, or that give me information (like the comment that let me know there was more accurate thyroid testing available that I could have done). Support is always welcome, even if the commenter is on a different plan, or would never try what I am trying. We can all support each other in trying to get healthy in different ways! Judgments not needed.

Janet said...

I didn't mistake anything you said in your previous post but thank you for setting the record straight for people you felt needed it.

I sympathize with you so very much, Lyn. You are an incredible woman/mother and I wish you peace - along with health and the weight loss you desire. I would love for you to read my last post to my own blog. You and I have been living the same life for so long... I've taken a bit of a U-turn that has delivered me an 118 pound weight loss and a lot of freedom from the very stress you talk about (being tired of thinking about what to eat). I'd give anything to take away this struggle for you, for me and everyone else...

Remember, I'm thinking of you and wishing you wellness.

xo

R.E. said...

If you don't blog for feedback why have a public blog at all?!

Lyn said...

R.E.~

Because I enjoy it, and others have told me they enjoy reading it.

Anonymous said...

I don’t think anyone is saying that your plan is necessarily wrong or judging every morsel of food you eat; at least I haven’t seen a lot of that. What people seem to be zeroing in on is your underlying relationship with and attitude towards food, independent of the actual diet plan you’re following. That’s what was concerning to me about the last post: not that you made yourself treats at all but that the volume and variety in context with posts you made a couple of months ago about comfort eating bakery treats and using food to avoid dealing with negative emotions gave the strong impression that you’re not addressing the way you relate to food. I think that’s the sticking-point for people.

The fact that you mentioned baking batches of real cinnamon rolls over Christmas and then found a recipe for AIP apple cinnamon rolls in your second week on-plan makes it seem like you see cinnamon rolls — for example — as an indispensable part of your everyday life and when people know about your very recent history of comfort eating baked goods (and the associated recent weight gain) it seems like the reason is that you feel psychologically like you need those comfort foods on hand in some form. You more-or-less said this yourself when you stated that if you didn’t batch bake foods including snacks you would soon go off-plan and providing yourself with these items was 'planning for success’.

I’m not saying that you will fail in your attempt to stick to AIP through the elimination and phasing-in stages, or that you will fail in your aim to lose weight, but I have followed your blog for several years and like others I have seen this kind of thinking on your part precipitate a derailment on a number of occasions … with Medifast, and with AIP. That’s why I think what you need to address first and foremost is the “need” to have snack items and particular foods. Everything else — Medifast vs. Atkins vs. AIP vs. Paleo vs. calorie counting vs. Weight Watchers — is just surface detail and pretty irrelevant, not remotely worth talking about, as long as food occupies the space in your mental landscape that it currently has. As far as I can tell, that’s the only reason you’ve ever gone off-plan regardless of the plan you’re following: things like getting sick were just triggers; your relationship with food is the actual cause. That’s why I feel that the actual plan and whether it’s “right” or “wrong” is a total side-issue, even a non-issue, because realistically in order to follow any given plan you need to deal with this obstacle first.

I wish you the best of luck; I really don’t want to see you fail. I just speak from experience and with the benefit of retrospective panorama on this.

Lyn said...

Anonymous~

Thanks, that makes sense. I know I have food issues but honestly don't know a permanent solution. Cutting them out completely has always resulted in eventually going back to the junk in an extreme way. But my ED counselor's advice to "just have one candy bar when you want it" isn't really feeling good to me either. If I went and had a candy bar right now I would want 5 more candy bars, a bunch of donuts, and some pizza.

Sometimes I really wonder if my food issues are fixable at all.

Anonymous said...

> Sometimes I really wonder if my food issues are fixable at all.

I'd like to say that, yes, they definitely can but I think everyone here knows that it's entirely dependent on the individual. I had a disordered relationship with food — but it wasn't as deep-seated or quite of the same nature as yours, so my insight only goes so far — and struggled with some other destructive, problem behaviours for several years.

Resolving these personal problems took a lot of time and self-reflection as well as a lot of work. I feel like I have a balanced relationship with food now and that it's sustainable but it wasn't something I was able to consciously work towards; it was something that blossomed serendipitously out of a lot of positive changes and habits I was making (many of which had absolutely nothing to do with health, fitness, or nutrition). Likewise the other problems I overcame. I wasn't able to work towards a specific template because I didn't really know what success looked like, or a healthy relationship with food and exercise, until I had achieved it. Sort of like how someone who has only known abusive relationships can't fully appreciate how toxic they were until and unless they're able to build a healthy relationship and then it clicks and makes sense.

The important thing is that you recognise that you have issues with food even if you can't quite figure out exactly what they are or what a healthy/normal relationship would look like for you. The other important thing is not to give up. Nothing you can sing that can't be sung, right? Since other people overcome addiction, abusive backgrounds, disordered eating, etc. it's possible. It depends on you. You need to find your white feather, basically. You need to believe that you can do it, in order to be able to do it. Part of that, for me, was fake-it-till-you-make-it. Part of it was building healthy routines and habits (such as exercise, so that even when I didn't believe it was doing anything positive for my body I did it anyway just because I had made a commitment to myself). Part of it was organising seemingly totally-unrelated parts of my life. It felt like a great deal of effort at the time, but now it carries me along regardless of what life throws at me (and I was homeless for a little while in January).

If you can get a real therapist, with a degree, who understands your issues — since it seems like you're not really clicking with your ED counsellor — that would probably help you a lot. Maybe not at first, because therapy is really horrible when you first start, but given time and consistency you could make a lot of progress. Best of luck, whatever you choose.

Amy said...

I think your focus on health instead of physique will be rewarding for you. I agree that complete restriction of certain foods can play games with the mind. If you know that details you then you are wise to make healthy versions of treats. And I agree that batch-cooking treats ahead of time is super smart, knowing they are there and allowed will make you want them less, and not having something healthy around when you feel like you have to have a treat could lead to eating something off plan.
I hope you find an answer to your thyroid/pain

Anonymous said...

Congrats on the weight loss instead of gain! One pound at a time is all it takes.

Hugs from Nan in Phoenix!

Anonymous said...

But but but... Isn't the point of a public blog having feedback? Otherwise what do you enjoy that you couldn't get from an email list or forum or password protected blog? Oh well. Haha. It doesn't make sense to me but it pales in comparison to the other issues ppl are bringing up. RE

Lyn said...

Janet~

That is such a helpful blog. Thank you for sharing it... it's a lot to think about. I appreciate you sharing that with me (and others).

Anonymous said...

omg....i wish i could blog....

see this weight loss thing....so much more psychological than people think ....

what you tell yourself most of the time dictates what you put in your mouth...

and who can truly understand the way the mind ticks

blogging is like group therapy with a bunch of strangers…some comments are supportive and some are not going to be but that is the risk of opening up to a public group setting

...keeping track of progress and spotting issues....that is one of many reasons to blog which can be helpful along this journey.

hope you find a solution to the issue you noted lyn....that is the most important thing....more than what ever plan you choose to stick to…cause the big secret is that diets work...but it is to stick to it....and again that all depends on what you tell yourself.

Anonymous said...

If you are getting real, in person professional help:

1. make sure you are telling the professional everything. You can't half-arss it. They need to know everything, even if you have to unpeel yourself, in layers like an onion, to do it.

2. share your blog with them. Valuable insight.

3. you have to be willing to 'go to' dark, scary places. You will never get better until you do. But it's worth every blood, sweat, and tears to get through it.

4. if after all that you aren't getting better, addressing your darkest areas of your soul and heart, find a new therapist. Sometimes one just doesn't 'fit' with the first one.

Until this happens, you are just spinning your wheels. Make yourself a priority, and stick through it through the rough times. And it will be rough. But it's the only way to heal and improve your relationship with foods. Nothing else will work. Not a single diet in the world will work long term if you haven't addressed inner demons, no matter what their root are.

Lyn said...

Anonymous~

I feel like Cloe doesn't really 'get' my issues and in fact may have some unresolved food issues herself. We have another appointment this week and I'll try to go deeper. I also need to see how many visits my insurance is going to cover... I may be about to run out soon.

Also to the other anonymous, yes, both Cloe and the prior counselor who referred me to her both have degrees. Some times ago I had a counselor who was just a random guy who took classes at some church and then provided "counseling by donation." That was not very productive. I think people need real training and experience to deal with this kind of stuff!

Anonymous said...

If you are running out of insurance coverage, and can't afford to foot that bill yourself, there are many excellent books on Emotional Eating. I suggest you look into that. Diets will help to a point, but if you don't address / face the underlying issues, as you can see, you are just spinning your wheels. More time reading on emotional eating, less time baking...would be a more valuable use of your time, in my opinion.

Lyn said...

Anon~

yep, I do a lot of reading on that topic! A couple days a week when I am waiting for my daughter at dance school, I take a walk for 20 minutes and then sit and read on my Kindle for the rest of the hour. I've read a lot of the ones that are popular so if you have some suggestions I'm open for new material.

Anonymous said...

Are you doing the work in them? They all require that you look at, examine, work through issues. It always sounds like you do everything you can to run from/avoid those issues, at least from the few times you've posted on the topic before. You have to go inside, and work those issues out. Not hide from them via baking.

Lyn said...

Anon~

If you go back through my blog you can see I've done a lot of working through those issues. I still do work on them, but don't re-blog much of that work. Sometimes I feel like we can overthink and re-examine our issues and our pasts to death, feel like we have breakthroughs and have "solved" the issues... but then in a year or two or three, the behaviors creep back in. My last counselor didn't think my food issues have much to do with my past but everything to do with the habit of stress eating (turning to food to deal with uncomfortable feelings). Both she and Cloe have said I have to form new habits and deal with my feelings in other ways... which I have done, even for months at a time, but I tend to revert back to the easy and comforting bag of chips on a hard day.

Anonymous said...

Well, I just don't think you stay at or climb back up to the mid 240's (what, a good 100 lbs. overweight?) if you really are tackling your issues, consistently. Most people who work at it, consistently, lose the weight, or at least get much closer to a normal, healthy weight. Despite thyroid or food sensitivity issues.

Lyn said...

Anon~

I disagree. Most people never lose the weight, regardless of their approach.

Your tone seems a bit judgmental to me, which isn't something I welcome here. Constructive, helpful, and supportive comments welcome!

Anonymous said...

Most people DO get to a healthier weight, if they have truly worked on their problems. And then learn that weight loss maintenance needs more coping skills. and work on that.

Nothing judgmental. Being 100 lbs. or so overweight (even 70-80) means one has issues with food, and emotionally how to handle trigger foods, self-medicating with foods, etc. No big secret, nothing judgmental. And again, if you are going to blog, with open commenting, people are going to offer up constructive criticism that just because you might not like what is said, doesn't make it 'judgmental.' What you have to remember is that no one reads a 'weight loss' blog unless they have been there themselves, past or present. There is much to be learned from those who have succeeded long term. Instead of dismissing it out of hand because you don't like what is being said.

Kira said...

For what it's worth, I think it's healthy to find food you enjoy eating, and can treat yourself with without binging. People who have a healthy relationship with food do that. Your attitude toward these treats sounds pretty sane to me. Crazy that you have to defend yourself.

Steelers6 said...

I think feedback may be ok, as in support, encouragement, etc., it's the judgements, harshness, negativity that are not welcome in the comments imo.
I've been reading your blog a long time, & I feel like I "get" what you're saying. I'm often puzzled by some of the comments that can feel almost like a put down, or even cruel at times, at least to me as an outsider. I don't get how anyone might think that is acceptable.
And you always handle those with amazing grace & firmness.
I'm so proud of you for staying with AIP.
I have some close family needing to do that right now, & it's commitment!
I have more to say, but another day.
xo Chrissy

Steelers6 said...

Hi Lyn, I'm baack!
Anyway, I was wondering if your readers know what the treats/ingredients are with AIP. As I said, 2 of my close family are following it right now. At Christmas I wanted to make my nephew a special treat, & it was so difficult/limiting at that stage. I mean he could have fruit, but I had so little with which to work. I did it anyway; figured it was a labor of love, & totally the thought counted! I don't think what I made was a huge hit with him, but the adult liked it enough. Anyway, my point is, even the "desserts" are not that crazy. This is pretty healthy stuff, people! :)
Chrissy

Lyn said...

Chrissy~

that was sweet of you to make him something special! Yeah, these "treats" are pretty interesting... bland, but healthy ingredients. Even the strawberry "custard" had a purpose: to get the benefits of healing of grass fed gelatin into my diet (that is one of the foods that is encouraged on AIP). Most of the stuff I bake is made from some kind of mashed up vegetable with coconut and maybe a bit of honey added.

Steelers6 said...

Exactly. It really rather pretends to be a dessert in a way initially, anyway, & would totes NOT seem like a dessert to those who do eat actual junk. But those recipes totally serve their purpose for those on AIP & I think that's great. !
So it's wonderful that you have things made in advance for you to stay on plan when friends come. I love that you're taking care of you.
But I just wanted your readers to know that while the name of an AIP 'treat' sounds good, or the pics look good, sometimes they are made from very limited ingredients, & cannot be viewed by the rest of us as a failure in terms of an eating plan, when in fact it is huge success.
Chrissy

Anonymous said...

@Kira & Steelers:

The issue people are raising is not with the concept of *ever* treating yourself with food or with the nutritional profile of the food. Obviously something made from apples and sweet potatoes is more nutritionally dense than a Cinnabon ... the concern is the volume of snacks made and the underlying relationship with food, the 'need' to have comfort food, treats, and snacks. People who have a healthy relationship with food do enjoy treats occasionally, but they don't need treats on a daily basis or necessarily spend this much time thinking about or producing them.

Sara said...

"People who have a healthy relationship with food do enjoy treats occasionally, but they don't need treats on a daily basis."

I don't think this is necessarily true, and I think that FEELING like you are "treating" yourself every day with something healthy can be essential to some people's success maintaining a healthy lifestyle.

When I had a healthy relationship with food (and, incidentally, was at my thinnest weight in my life), I did enjoy a treat every single day--after dinner, I'd have five Dove dark chocolates. I'm pretty certain that the treats Lyn made have a) fewer calories and b) WAY more nutritional value than Dove chocolates! The routine of having a small dessert treat every day made it so that I was enjoying something yummy and decadent but not breaking the bank in terms of calories... Not that I was even thinking of calories or dieting at that point! Ironically, it's only when I started to deprive myself of certain foods by dieting that my weight started yo-yoing up!

Just some food for thought.

Anonymous said...

There's a big difference between having chocolate or a dessert after dinner as part of your daily routine and comfort eating and feeling like you "need" treats on hand so you can comfort eat without breaking the bank in terms of calories though. I'm sure that you were also able at that point to pass up treats earlier in the day or say no to cravings because you knew that you were going to have a treat in the evening; what Lyn related as recently as December/January is deciding on the spur of the moment to buy a brownie or a cookie to help her cope with stress or negative emotions and that's what she's recovering from, and that's what I'm flagging up wrt "needing" batch-baked treats on hand for dealing with cravings when they strike.

Anonymous said...

Lyn - sounds like you have a plan and given your struggles last year, I can imagine it feels good to have something you are working towards.
Like you said, right now it's not about weight loss but eating cleaner and given most foods are processed, you have to cook more from scratch - so good for you for taking the time necessary to prepare and cook ahead of time. It's a good habit to start...
Routing for you!
Maria